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08 July 2007 @ 04:20 pm
Tabula Rasa & Walkabout  




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Tabula Rasa & Walkabout

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Jack and Hurley learn Kate is the fugitive, while the Marshal's condition steadily worsens. Eventually the Marshal asks Kate end his suffering, and Sawyer steps in, but fails at the task. Then Kate, Michael, and Locke go on a trek through the jungle to hunt boar, the survivors hold a memorial service led by Claire while the fuselage burns, and we find out Locke was once wheelchair-bound.

discuss
  • Were you able to guess that Locke was in the wheelchair before the big reveal?
  • Which is your favorite Kate con?
  • How did Tabula Rasa change your first impressions of characters like Sawyer, Kate, Sayid, and Jack?

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Rachel: [lost] Next time on arrested developmentack_attack on July 8th, 2007 08:33 pm (UTC)
...WE HUNT
1. "Nice stick" LOL Sawyer with the one liners never gets old.

2. Hurley says what we're all thinking and I love that the writers STILL use him for that even now. Him asking about the dinosaurs, and even after Sawyer shot the Marshal and then you heard him moan again, Hurley was like "you've got to be kidding me" LOL YES.

3. IT IS SO ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT SAYID IS THE LEADER OF THIS GROUP AND NOT JACK. Even before I hated Jack as much as I do now, Sayid is OBVIOUSLY much better at leading the survivors. Boooo. Sayid FTW.

4. I kind of forgot how evil Kate used to supposedly be...but now that we know not only what she did, but all of her illegal exploits, why the hell would the Marshal say she's so dangerous? Granted she's a liar, but like...she only ever hurts people when she's being attacked. I don't know.

MY NAME'S NOT ANNIE. Win.

5. MONTAGES I freaking LOVE Lost montages, and that one in Tabula Rasa is so classic. I love that somehow in montages everyone loves each other way more, and Sayid will even give Sawyer an apple hahaha.

Also, in that moment, Sawyer looks so ridiculously good that I stopped breathing for a second. For reals, guys. For reals.

6. LOL I love creepy!Locke at the end of that episode, and the creepy music, it's kind of weird but I love it.

7. Kate: Someone's in the fuselage.
Jack: ...Sawyer.
Sawyer: Right behind you, Jackass.

LOLOL

8. Locke's calculator: The noise that Colonel Locke's calculator makes in the flashback IS THE NOISE THE MONSTER MAKES. I figured that out a long time ago, but it's still kind of cool. I have no idea what that means, but listen again if you have to.

9. *ahem* DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN'T DO!!!!!!!!!!!!

10. Hurley and Charlie is SO adorable when they're fishing and it made me sad because of the end of S3 ;_;

11. Locke has the prettiest theme music in the Lost soundtrack. By far.

12. Jack's dad randomly showing up is so creepy and weird and awesome.

Ah, I love this damn show.
the laundry on the hill: ' don't let me wanderschmiss on July 8th, 2007 09:14 pm (UTC)
Re: ...WE HUNT
2. Ahaha yes. Hurley is the best expository character ever because he is the voice of the people.

4. That's what makes it so hilarious!! The Department of Justice spent three years tracking a one-time criminal with no history of violence. What a menace to society.

8. That is... kind of scary. I think it means the box company guy/KFC manager/Dave Grohl is actually Jacob. He's very judgemental you know!!!
The Other Crazy French Chick: LOST sayid is awesomehobbitofkobol on July 8th, 2007 09:20 pm (UTC)
Re: ...WE HUNT
3. I KNOW! He started organizing the groups for food, water and electronics! THAT'S good leadership! I really don't know why they kept turning to Jack. okay, he can save their lives if they fall/are shot/eaten by sth but that does not make him a leader!

4. yeah, and is the Marshall in love with her or sth? "no matter how she makes you feel" wtf was that?

5. omg I love this song

10. ;____;

11. this theme music makes me so sad everytime
idmenidmen on July 9th, 2007 08:22 am (UTC)
Re: ...WE HUNT
4. yeah, and is the Marshall in love with her or sth? "no matter how she makes you feel" wtf was that?

Makes me wonder what else there might be to tell in Kate's fbs with the Marshall
congratulations universe, you win: lost 1miss_universe93 on July 10th, 2007 09:15 am (UTC)
Re: ...WE HUNT
4. that's exactly what i was thinking! i can kinda sorta understand him going on about how "dangerous" she is considering she is a criminal (though not a particularly dangerous one) but that line just sticks out. for him to say that there must have been something between them, one sided or not, and he was especially obsessed with her if you think about it, travelling overseas and everything to get her, and the way he spoke to her. i dunno, it's interesting, LOL.
Melissa: lostpromiseoftin on July 9th, 2007 04:01 am (UTC)
Re: ...WE HUNT
3) Yes yes and YES. Sayid managed to remain calm and reasonable and authoritative and sexy.

6) I used to be terrified of Locke. I remember when I first got into the fandom, someone was doing numerology for the characters and whilst dealing with Walt, essentially the numbers revealed Locke was an evil, dark foil to Walt's light, heroic nature. That theory seemed solid until we discovered it was actually the Others who were the enemies. But what with Locke's current buddy-buddy relationship with Jacob, I think we might get to see more of the mystic "special" man his mother proclaimed him to be.

7) I loved that part. And I usually don't side with Sawyer.

9) OMG YESSSSS. Walkabout ALWAYS makes me cry (and BTW, I had NO CLUE Locke was in a wheelchair. That whole episode was so well orchestrated.

10) OTP!!!!! :(
idmenidmen on July 9th, 2007 08:19 am (UTC)
Re: ...WE HUNT
#4 I dunno, I reckon Kate was pretty badass and prety dangerous. She did kill her own father in cold blood and we did see she that even on the island was perfectly capable of sneaky business, not just when being attacked, but in order to get what she wants - "She will do anything to get away" - that Marhasll said - guess that about sums it up. Kate isn't really like this anymore though. Not even in her flashbacks.

#10 awwwwwww *tears*
Both one and the other: Sawyer wants me! by queendmlostlollipop on July 9th, 2007 03:36 pm (UTC)
Re: ...WE HUNT
3. WORD, OMG.

10. I have not seen the end of S3 yet (only bits and pieces) but I know what happens and I am really curious about Hurley's reaction to it, because Hurley + Charlie = BFF OMG!
.:i.am.the.rain:.: josh holloway is sexyreadywreadywit on July 9th, 2007 07:50 pm (UTC)
Re: ...WE HUNT
WORD!! sayid is the leader and it just MAKES SENSE to have him as the leader!!!!!!!!
congratulations universe, you win: lost 1miss_universe93 on July 10th, 2007 09:33 am (UTC)
Re: ...WE HUNT
2. yes! i like how they've developed him as a chracter along with being a kind voice of the audience. other shows have had characters who voice the audience as well, and they tend to end up blah and boring, but not Hurllley.

3. i think sayid stepping up as leader in these eps is kind of meant to lead into jack's "white rabbit" breakdown, as well. i've noticed in these early eps there's much more lead-in into the focus of the next ep, like the locke pan around and jack's dad showing up an ep early. we don't really get that anymore in s3.

6. i like how they make locke out to be so SOOPER CREEEEEEPY in these eps, but then by around season two when he's all "we have to push the button!" he's not creepy at all, LOL.

7. LOLLL one of my favourite lines ever. and jack sounds so sure of it too, and then he's all like "oh. damn."
Karen Parisot: Lost/Don't tell me what I can't dobeanpop on July 8th, 2007 08:39 pm (UTC)
Walkabout
The first time that watched season one (I didn't actually start watching Lost until halfway through season 3) I missed these two episodes. (We were watching them at a friends house and they watched these two while I wasn't there.) So I had no idea Locke was wheelchair bound until like the middle of season 1 when I bought the disk set.

That being said, Walkabout was a very emotional episode for me. Just the look on Locke's face when he woke up from the crash, seeing his toes moving and everything. And watching it this time around, I now understand more of why he's done everything in his power since arriving on the island to keep them from getting off.

Also, watching this season over again with this community has made me understand Locke a lot more. At the beginning of the show (throughout seasons 1 and 2) I respected and loved his character. Then when he started being crazy in season 3 I started hating him. But now I understand that his motive behind everything is just so that he doesn't have to go back home.

Also, I just want to say that I couldn't stand Jack from the beginning. I liked Kate a little in the beginning, but she just...isn't my type I guess. And I've always loved Sawyer :D
cech yourself before you wreck yourself: boner jamskrysteener on July 8th, 2007 08:44 pm (UTC)
I had NO idea about Locke in the wheelchair. I knew something was up but I didn't know what.

I like when Kate robbed the bank and then robbed her friends.

After Tabula Rasa I like Sayid, Charlie, Sawyer more. Kate, Shannon less.

Locke is REALLY creepy. I'm not sure I would let my son hang out with him either.

Jack: "The bodies we bury are not gonna stay buried for long"
That line stuck out.

Jack: "We don't have time to sort out everybody's religions." Charlie: Last I heard we were positively made of time."
That made me laugh.
the laundry on the hill: ' edward mars ALWAYS gets his womanschmiss on July 8th, 2007 08:48 pm (UTC)
GIP GIP GIP
The marshal TOTALLY practiced the gun finger thing all the way to Australia. It was the greatest moment of his life. Also there is a hilarious/inappropriate South Park reference to be made here but I fear it is not appropriate for all of the watch_lost audience :(

Walkabout was my fav Lost episode through the whole first season. OMG I did not see the ending coming and I FLIPPED OUT. Locke flashbacks just get progressively sadder and sadder though. :(

Sayid and Sawyer and the apple was so good. I loved Sayid from the start and Sawyer! He endeared himself quickly. Ultimate Lost OTP y/y?

Remember Michael running in on Sun bathing? Ten bucks says he taps that in a flashforward. ANGST!!!!!!!!!!!!
cech yourself before you wreck yourself: Fernandokrysteener on July 8th, 2007 08:57 pm (UTC)
Re: GIP GIP GIP
y

And lol @ that South Park reference! (I took me like 5 minutes to get it)
Rachel: [arr dev] George/Kitty Laughack_attack on July 8th, 2007 11:21 pm (UTC)
Re: GIP GIP GIP
LOL FINGERBANG omg.
idmenidmen on July 9th, 2007 08:20 am (UTC)
Re: GIP GIP GIP
Locke flashbacks are the saddest things :(. And haha - fingerbang
congratulations universe, you win: lost 1miss_universe93 on July 10th, 2007 10:08 am (UTC)
Re: GIP GIP GIP
FINGERBANG! hahahaaa.
polarbear_girl on July 8th, 2007 09:15 pm (UTC)
answers to the discuss questions
Were you able to guess that Locke was in the wheelchair before the big reveal?
No. I'm really slow

Which is your favorite Kate con?
I really like all of them. I love how she uses an alias and then at the end she's like My name's not Kate

How did Tabula Rasa change your first impressions of characters like Sawyer, Kate, Sayid, and Jack?
I loved Kate. I love that she looks like the girl next door but they ended up making her the criminal and a tough chick.
Sayid FTW! He's always been ver smart about the things that need to be done. He should be the one and only leader
I liked Jack during season 1, though I hate how he just asumes Kate's a murderer and starts judging her without knowing what she's done
Sawyer's always been cool
polarbear_girl on July 8th, 2007 09:16 pm (UTC)
Re: answers to the discuss questions
headslap. I'm so dumb today. Obviously Kate's line is not that
grr. you know what I mean
amantium_irae: sexy beastamantium_irae on July 8th, 2007 09:34 pm (UTC)
*insert Marshal face as he cocks the inexistent gun*
Ray Mullen's the firt one-armed man we meet on the show in one of the several references to "The Fugitive". OK, we haven't actually *met* Montand yet, but hopefully Danielle and her crew of cheese eating surrender monkeys WILL get a flashback.

1. I watched season 1 in a marathon on New Year's Eve and Walkabout and White Rabbit happened to be on when the clock struck 12. I was enraged that I only got to see bits and pieces of these two episodes because all these losers... friends kept calling me to wish me a Happy New Year and one even decided to drop by. I completely missed the Locke wheelchair reveal and then I read about it on the internet in some random thread before I got to rewatch the episode. Sure, I still love it and it's still powerful, but that kind of ruined it for me.

2. Kate is a sucky conwoman because that face she made when she said she couldn't shoot a gun? Yeah, I didn't buy that.

3. I didn't have much of an opinion of Sawyer (still don't care). My opinion of Jack didn't change much, except maybe I liked him even more, I just thought of how horrible it must have been for him to have to off the Marshal like that. With the benefit of hindsight, it completes the picture of how he's always the one left to pick up the pieces in the end...

I'd suspected those were Kate's handcuffs the whole time so I wasn't exactly shocked. I was however touched to see her so concerned about Ray and how she struggled to put a mask on the Marshal in the plane. I wanted to know wtf she did and why Ed was so gung ho of apprehending her. She's meh now, but I'd still like to know why the hell run to Australia of all places when Mexico's so much closer?
congratulations universe, you win: lost 2miss_universe93 on July 10th, 2007 10:21 am (UTC)
Re: answers to the discuss questions
I completely missed the Locke wheelchair reveal and then I read about it on the internet in some random thread before I got to rewatch the episode. Sure, I still love it and it's still powerful, but that kind of ruined it for me.
Yeah, same with me. I didn't start watching Lost until I caught part of "Whatever The Case May Be" on TV down here, and by then my mother had already been watching it and was all "THE BALD DUDE WAS A CRIPPLE AND NOW HE'S NOT OMG", so it was hard for me to be shocked upon seeing the wheelchair reveal after that. LOL.

I'd still like to know why the hell run to Australia of all places when Mexico's so much closer?
LOL yes. I think there's probably a whole flashback ep's worth of stuff to go into about Kate in Australia, including why she ran there of all places. I guess she wanted to get as far away as possible, but still Australia's a pretty random destination. There's also a bit of ambiguity as to what happened between arriving in mel-born (as she pronounces it, lol) and arriving at Ray's farm. I highly doubt she actually walked for 100km and accidentally stumbled on his farm as per her cover story. I ramble, though.
amantium_irae: chick magnetamantium_irae on July 8th, 2007 09:39 pm (UTC)
*first... obviously

I'm sure this is nothing new, but I figured maybe someone needs the link to the Walkabout script. There are all sorts of interesting tidbits there.

http://www.imsdb.com/TV/Lost.html
idmenidmen on July 9th, 2007 10:49 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much for this link :)
I'M IN A GLASS CASE OF EMOTION: lost booooooooooooonefledmusic on July 8th, 2007 09:57 pm (UTC)
Don't tell me what I can't do!
1. At the beginning of "Tabula Rasa" when Sayid says "We should make camp," for a split second I thought he said "We should make out."

It was pretty much amazing. Especially since I think he was standing next to Boone at the time.

Yeah, that was like, the highlight for me, or something.

2. Then of course there was "Al Jazeera's a network." I forgot about how much that made me laugh.

3. I guessed that Locke was in the wheelchair, and that was a pretty proud moment for me, as I never realize things like that. I'm generally very slow on the uptake.

4. "Walkabout" was the first episode of this show that really drew me in. Locke was the first character I truly cared about, and his episodes always hit me the hardest for some reason.

5. Am I the only one who can not stop thinking about Titanic when Rose and Jack are talking? Haha.
congratulations universe, you winmiss_universe93 on July 10th, 2007 10:25 am (UTC)
Re: Don't tell me what I can't do!
1. LOLLLL that would have been the most amazing moment on television if that had happened. Also, Boooone :(
yas_m5: Jack winsyas_m5 on July 8th, 2007 10:05 pm (UTC)
1. Hell no! I thought there was something when he wiggled his toe at the beginning but not close to him being in a whelchair. One of the best episode endings ever.

2. Well, she's not really about the cons imo. But I think the one where she really showed what she's capable of has to be the on island one when she got Sun to poison Michael/Jin. It really showed how far she'd go to get what she wants (where all that scheming talent went in the miniseason this year I don't know)

3. Sayid has always been the epitome of a soldier imo, but a soldier nonetheless. He can lead, he can organize, he can get things done, but he can not be in command. He can not take the tough decision or make the tougher choices. Kate, well that's when she was interesting and complicated and deep and mature and well... three dimensional. Jack, well, it just keeps getting better and better.
loud loutish lover: LOST: Checkmatehenpecked on July 8th, 2007 10:49 pm (UTC)
Sawyer, back when he was an asshat
You guys, I hated Sawyer in this episode. I kind of forgot about him in this time period, actually. How do you not kill someone when you shoot them that close? Ugh, what a moron you were Sawyer. But now, I love you.

Kate didn't used to irritate me, and now she does. Tit-for-Tat, maybe?

Sayid has always been badass, though. WEOOOO SAYIIDDDD!!!

I remember thinking, "God this Aussie dude is a total dick for hating on old people so much!" when that ep was on. Oops.

I may be totally heartless, but I'd be more concerned about building things we actually need to survive than spending all that time and energy on a memorial. Though, it's the most practical way to get rid of the bodies. Less digging.

I STILL MISS SHANNON!
Green Queen: Lost: Shannon You're Jokinggreen_queen on July 9th, 2007 11:08 am (UTC)
Re: Sawyer, back when he was an asshat
I MISS SHANNON TOO.
congratulations universe, you win: lost 1miss_universe93 on July 10th, 2007 10:28 am (UTC)
Re: Sawyer, back when he was an asshat
I kind of forgot about him in this time period, actually. How do you not kill someone when you shoot them that close?
LOL. I think he was jsut undereducated as to the proper way to put someone out of their misery. As I recall it, he shot the guy he murdered in Sydney in the chest as well, I think, not the head. I guess he just figured it would work again. Although "I was aiming for his heart" is such a face-palmy line. Dumbbb, though it's kind of interesting that as a con artist, he prays on people, so he's oblivious on how to kill them properly.

I ALSO MISS SHANNON :(
what do we say to the god of death?: chillinsomniawatcher on July 8th, 2007 11:04 pm (UTC)
1. NO! Considering that Locke was so commando/I know everything/why the hell is Jack the leader? When I did find out this is basically how my face looked: O__o’
2. Before the whole plane thing I thought that her bank scam was good but when she was all angsting over the toy plane it was more of a ‘all that for a plane’ kinda feeling.
3. Sayid = god, the rest, meh. I didn’t fall for Sawyer until Confidence Man really and Jack and Kate? Meh.

Fangirlage like WHOA.: LOST // Island is like 'WTF?'hopelessfangirl on July 9th, 2007 12:08 am (UTC)
Oh man, Locke in a wheelchair pwned me so hard the first time around. I still can't watch the end of that ep without getting teary with the sweeping music and the chair near the flames.

Oh, the days when Locke was cool...
lostndomseyeslostndomseyes on July 9th, 2007 12:51 am (UTC)
I think my favourite moments in LOST are when they have the lovely musicy / everyone's happy moments at the end of certain epies. :]

Anyways.. I thought Locke was the creepiest old guy I'd ever seen at this point in time. I started liking him okay towards 'The Moth' when he helped Charlie kick his drug problem, but by 'Fire + Water' I didn't like him again. Now I just can't stand him with his 'Let's Blow Everything Up' attitude. I just want to sit him down and say 'Dude, if you don't want to leave, FINE! You can stay here while the rest of us continue on to a normal life.' Geez. Besides I blame him for almost every death on LOST. Boone, Eko, Ana Lucia, Libby. He was the one who taught Michael the gun skills afterall.

Green Queen: Lost: Big Damn Herogreen_queen on July 9th, 2007 11:07 am (UTC)
I'm sure if we try really hard we can find a way to blame Locke for Charlie's death too.
My love is like whoapretty_fits on July 9th, 2007 01:30 am (UTC)
I was shocked when it was revealed that Locke was in a wheelchair, but after seeing the scene it all made sense after watching the pilot.
veronica marsjauregui on July 9th, 2007 02:45 am (UTC)
I had no idea that Locke was in a wheelchair so it came as a huge surprise to me.
Kassondra: {lost} (skate); needing you nowpendora_lass on July 9th, 2007 02:51 am (UTC)
I got troubles Lord, but not today...
I'd forgotten how much I missed the happy little montages at the ends of episodes! The "Wash Away" scene has been one of my favorites for a long, long time (and I'd nearly forgotten about it!).

Were you able to guess that Locke was in the wheelchair before the big reveal?
Goodness, I can barely remember, but I don't think I was.
Which is your favorite Kate con?
Probably the one at the bank in Whatever The Case May Be...if only for the fact that that might have been the only time she really fooled me...
How did Tabula Rasa change your first impressions of characters like Sawyer, Kate, Sayid, and Jack?
I still found Sawyer to be a total jerk, but he was starting to make me laugh more (which is always a good way to earn my respect, heh).

TR was before I started disliking Kate (though I still can't make up my mind about what I think of that girl) and I found her flashbacks interesting in that eppie.

At that point, I still hadn't given Sayid's character much thought, but I knew I liked his sexy way of talking *grin*

My respect for Jack's character really started to grow in that eppie...after having watched him care for the Marshall and all, I was liking his giving spirit (it wasn't until season 3 that I started to really see him more as a character to just laugh at...).

just a small town girl, livin' in a lonely world: [tv] team juliet ;; textwatchasifall on July 9th, 2007 08:00 am (UTC)
I had no idea Locke was in a wheelchair, I remember just sitting there and thinking; "Whoa. Wait. Hold on. Locke was in a wheelchair!" It actually took about five minutes to register. My feelings towards Locke constantly change... I think that's the purpose to his character. Even though I kind of hate him right now, I still think he is awesome in that sense... If that make sense xD

I absolutely adore the montages on Lost, I think they're so beautiful.

Hurley wins at life.

I've never really be a Sayid fan... I guess he's been a bit meh to me.
Green Queen: Lost: Awesome Nathangreen_queen on July 9th, 2007 11:06 am (UTC)
As much as it's probably the cruelest one and not really a con, I like Kate's marriage to Kevin best. Because Kevin is Nathan Fillion and he should always, always be on Lost and not effing Desperate Housewives. WTF.

SAYID FTW. Also, I love Fredric Lehne. He was great in Lost and made the final episodes of season 2 of Supernatural awesome.
Both one and the other: Dom: Hawaiian adorable by tremandylostlollipop on July 9th, 2007 04:23 pm (UTC)
Tabula Rasa
1. "Was it a dinosaur?" "It wasn't a dinosaur." "Did you see it?" "No." "Then how do you know it wasn't a dinosaur?" "Because dinosaurs are extinct." "Oh, right." HURLEY IS SO AWESOME.

2. Charlie has many great lines in this episode that suit Dom's acting perfectly.

3. What ack_attack said. SAYID WINS AT EVERYTHING.

4. Although it does annoy me that Sayid just up and decides that the hikers are not to tell their fellow castaways about the transmission, what annoys me even more is that Kate tells Jack about it anyway, because clearly the order doesn't apply to him, or something. Shut up, Kate.

5. Sawyer's "I'm not in civilisation no more, I'm in the WILD!" comment still cracks me up, especially when you consider that the man is saying this while looting corpses for booze, cigarettes and dirty magazines. If he were really in the wild, he'd have started skinning and eating the bodies by now, not nicking their Playboys.

6. CHARLIE + CLAIRE = OTP. *weeps* Back in those days, the only couple whose chemistry felt genuine.

7. Jack is such a condescending snot. "I am NOT a murderer, KATE." Yet. You don't even know what she did, Jack. And when she wanted to tell you you weren't interested. So Shut Up, Jack.

8. Charlie randomly trying to get people to recognise him, LOL! "What are you making?" "A whistle." "Oh. I used tribal flutes once in a recording session. I'm in a band."

9. The main reason why I didn't like this episode is because they are so obviously hammering home the fact that Kate is a criminal, but with A HEART OF GOLD, OMG! Because she rescued the one-armed farmer from a burning car wreck while she could have gotten away! After he ratted her out! But she didn't! And even now she's concerned about him getting the money! Because he's poor and his wife's dead and he's got only one arm and a helluva mortgage, OH WOES! We get it, LOST people. Shut up.

10. The scene where Sawyer not-kills the Marshal is one of my favourites from Season 1, mostly due to Josh Holloway's acting in it. He looks so utterly horrified when he finds out the shot didn't kill him. I don't know, Sawyer's whole dealing with that situation seemed so real to me, and it made me more invested in his character.

11. I remember very well that I just couldn't decide if Locke was awesome or creepy (or both). I thought I had it figured out when I saw him in the scene with Michael and he's all: "I know Walt's lost his mother, so you should bring his dog back to him." Awww, Locke! And then the final close-up with the creepy, creepy music and Locke's inscrutable face made me want to run for the hills (or possibly Sayid's tent).

12. Like most people here, I loved the montages. All the cranky, resentful, angsty castaways instantly turn to frolicking hippies at the sound of montage music. Oh Boone, you fixed my sunglasses, I'm sorry I was mean to you! Here Sawyer, have an apple and don't look so glum! Yes, you killed someone, Jack, but you did score yourself a hot chick! Walt loves Vincent! Michael loves Walt! Jin loves Sun! Sayid loves Sawyer! Claire loves her fetus! Charlie loves drugs! JACK MANAGED NOT TO CRY FOR AN ENTIRE EPISODE!
congratulations universe, you winmiss_universe93 on July 10th, 2007 10:41 am (UTC)
Re: Tabula Rasa
I love this whole comment, LOL.

5. That line is so very Sawyer, but you are also so very right. Looting people's smokes, how PRIMATIVE!

8. LMAO, I loved that. Particularly since it's Locke, who at that point is the one person who would not care at all.

10. The same with me. I love that Josh puts so much into playing this chracter right from these early episodes.

12. All the cranky, resentful, angsty castaways instantly turn to frolicking hippies at the sound of montage music. JACK MANAGED NOT TO CRY FOR AN ENTIRE EPISODE! LMAO.
Both one and the other: Dom: with baby by scots_rocklostlollipop on July 9th, 2007 05:06 pm (UTC)
Walkabout
1. I was actually quite surprised that it's not until, what is it, day four? that animals are attracted by the dead bodies in the fuselage. It may not have been boars right away, but I'd expect insects, rodents and seagulls to come swarming over at about day two or so.

2. I must at this point admit that I honest to God DROOLED at seeing Charlie semi-shirtless. You have to understand that I have been a Dom fangirl for years, and had never before seen so much of his bare skin. It was too much. Also, I may be completely retarded.

3. It pains me to have to say this, but I totally agree with Jack on the bodies issue. If it was one of my loved ones, it'd be much easier for me to accept that he/she was cremated against his/her wishes than eaten by animals.

4. "Colonel Locke, is this line secure?" Locke: *looks left, looks right* "Line secure." LOL!

5. If you're sticking Walt with a babysitter, Michael, at least make it someone he can actually talk to.

6. This is also the episode in which I began to actively dislike Jack. Before, I was kind of 'meh' about him. But when he snapped at Claire for bringing up the memorial service, I just thought he was being a real asshole to her, something she does not deserve at all, because it's a good idea and serves as a compromise to those who opposed the burning thing: a memorial makes it seem like a much more civilized affair. Also, you're not the only one here with problems, Jack, and Claire is a good example of that. Yet she's handling things a lot better.
I'd also forgotten how much I loved Claire's sweet character, and how young she used to look. She still does of course, but here she looks even younger than Shannon.

7. Shannon's bitchery is at top form in this ep. Some priceless oneliners ("what's a four-letter word for 'I don't care?') and nicknames for Boone ("I nominate you, Captain America!"). I miss her.

8. Charlie's drug-fueled rant about fishing, LOL! "England's an island!" And I ADORE the whole fishing scene with Hurley's tantrum and Charlie's complete ineptitude and their having the giggles about both. BFF, OMG.

9. Funniest line of the episode? Definitely Rose describing Jack as "patient and caring". ROTFLMAO!

10. What's up with Helen? Did Locke's ex go into the phone sex business after she dumped him? Or is this some random girl who lets Locke call her whatever the hell he wants, as long as he pays her 90 bucks per hour? Or did he actually track down a phone sex operator whose name is Helen? Is this ever explained?

11. Charlie's look when he realised he's been conned by Shannon BREAKS ME. He looks like a child standing around while his parents are fighting and think he doesn't understand what they're saying anyway. I want to cuddle him.

12. The whole memorial scene is the sweetest thing ever. I love how Claire has managed to find all this random information about people and used it to try and figure out what kind of people the non-survivors were. That's what I call patient and caring.

I so wish I had actually seen this episode before reading the recap, but since I was too impatient to wait for six months, I missed out on the big reveal, which I think was awesomely done. If I hadn't known what was going to happen beforehand, I never would have guessed it. And the Miracle Music kicks ass.
congratulations universe, you winmiss_universe93 on July 10th, 2007 10:56 am (UTC)
Re: Walkabout
3. I agree. I mean, Sayid definately had a good point in that cremating them all disregarded their wishes and stuff, but hello, desert island. In forced cermation VS boar food, I would pick forced cremation for anyone.

4. I just watched that part, and it made me laugh. Especially because he works in a CUBICLE.

6. Jack was a jerk with disregarding Claire, and also disregarding Boone when he approcahces him about Rose. We understand you're very busy sticking logs into the fuselage Jack, but stop being a jerk. And I love how pretty and natural Claire looks in these eps, versus how she looks now with the bangs and everything. You can kind of see how much older Emilie looks now when you compare the two.

9. LMAO!

10. The general consensus from what I've seen is that it's definately two different Helens, but I don't think anything is ever really explained. My thinking was that after he and real!Helen broke up, he either found phone sex!Helen (whose real name was either Helen or he's jsut calling her that) and became close to her because he can't let go of the real!Helen. It's kind of lonely and sad and twisted, but that would be Locke for you at that point. God, how much money was he spending though? He would have been broke if he's been talking to her enough to be friends over the past eight months and paying $89.95 an hour for it. Sheesh.
.:i.am.the.rain:.: josh holloway is sexyreadywreadywit on July 9th, 2007 07:57 pm (UTC)
questions/answers
•i had NO IDEA about the wheelchair. definately one of lost's first "WHOA! WTF!" moments!!
•actually i loved the bank con. she kicked SO MUCH ass. and that guy she met up w/ 2 do the con? totally a sexy asshole. like...she gets to make out w/ a super hot guy and NOT feel bad about screwing him over cause he's a tool. PLUS it was all for her plane♥
• i don't think that much changed about my opinion of sawyer or jack . he was always sexy and jack was always...not as sexy by any stretch of the imagination. XD XD! but i think that in the pilot kate seems a little weak and frightened, and this was the first ep to prove that that was TOTALLY not what she is/was. that she kicks a lot of ass when she has to. as for sayid? i think i always just sorta though the kicks ass, although i don't remember all that well to be honest.

i think this episode just sorta further proves what A LOT of us fans were saying back in season two. that all of the new characters, EXCESSIVE jack flashbacks, and now even the flashforwards? they all lead to us not having enough time to explore and enjoy the backstories of the characters we met in these early episodes. i think there is still a story strictly about the marshall and kate that needs to be explored. i think that she did something -perosnal- to him that we never got to find out about--and that is why he searches her down as viciously as he does.
congratulations universe, you win: lost 2miss_universe93 on July 10th, 2007 11:52 am (UTC)
interesting lines
I hope no one's getting annoyed with my crazy comments in this post, LOL. And I still have more stuff to add, so...here are some more interesting random lines:

1. Sayid talking about the bodies: "No regard for their wishes? Their religions?"
I find that last part really intresting and foreshadow-y, considering that the only reason Sayid was on 815 to begin with was that he stayed behind in Sydney to claim his terrorist friend's body, in order for him to receive a proper Muslim burial. The agent even says "He'll be cremated", which leads me to think it was written that way to make you think back to this whole body-burning thing.

2. Shannon about Boone and the gun: "Please, you've never even held a gun. He doesn't believe in guns. He goes on marches."
LOL, so random. I totally believe Boone as one of those anti-gun marchers, even though he says he isn't. It fits with him always trying to do the right thing but just falling short, along with him thinking someone should talk to Rose (and Shannon being all "I nominate you, CAPTAIN AMERICA!"). Along with that, Shannon's ordeal with Charlie and the fish shows her ability to manipulate men really well. Shannon really grows through the first season from this spoiled little girl we see in the early episodes.

3. Kate: "I want to tell you what I did... Why he was after me."
Does anyone think Kate would have told him the truth or told him something else? The reason she blew up her father's house was quite personal, and it doesn't strike me as the kind of crime she'd tell someone she's only known for three days, even in that situation. I don't know, though.

4. Rose: "They're probably thinking the same thing about us."
I looove all of Rose's lovely forshadowing of the Tailies existance. Just randomly, what was actually happening on day four over at the Tailies camp? Or at the Others camp, for that matter. It's interesting to think about.

Also, a note on Australianisms (being Australian myself): I think Ray and Kate were driving on the wrong side of the road, although at least it was the right kind of car. I myself have never seen a wanted poster in a post office (or ever). I love how Kate says "Mel-borrrrn". That is all.
Both one and the otherlostlollipop on July 10th, 2007 01:05 pm (UTC)
Re: interesting lines
1. OMG, you're so right! I hadn't noticed that.

2. I agree about Shannon's bitchiness and the character arc she goes through on the island, although I have to say I was disappointed with her S2 flashback episode. For me, it just didn't properly explain how she went from a sweet, lovable ballet teacher to a whiny, lazy, self-centered superbitch in, like, two years or something.

3. I don't know. Now that you say it, it seems unlikely that she would have. Although, in the aftermath of something that traumatic, she might have been emotional enough to do so.